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Rick’s latest idiocy

Ugh.

He seems not to have read the Constitution, especially the part about the separation of church and state.

And what about freedom of religion? Doesn’t that, if one so chooses, also include freedom from religion? Why should some people’s religious celebrations — i.e. Christmas, be forced on every child in the room?

And what does being gay in the military have to do with anything? As far as I know, working next to someone who is gay not only doesn’t make me gay (last I checked it wasn’t contagious), but it doesn’t make me feel badly (other, separate, different) for not being gay. That is not the experience of children being forced to pray — either directly, or through the peer pressure of being the one of few in the room who are not.

And religion, of any sort, is a personal choice, and has no place in a state-run organization.

(Nice coat)

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5 Responses to “Rick’s latest idiocy”


  1. 1 treacle
    December 9, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    A friend of mine posted this on facebook: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8sbBVOt40Q&sns=fb

  2. December 10, 2011 at 2:28 am

    I sit here in Australia feeling smug that we have no “Rick Perry” here and that such views would be widely ridiculed….but deep down I am worried that I’m going to be proved wrong.

    Our current opposition leader is a traditional catholic – but without the social conscience. The ruling Labor party has just changed its policy so that it officially supports same sex marriage and although this may not become law, I can see our next election being fought over ‘Rick Perry type issues’ such as this. The opposition thinks they’re already on a winner with their anti-refugee policies (which are really just one step away from complete xenophobia).

    You must find this very depressing – I certainly would. I really worry about where the western world, of which I am a too-passive part, is heading.

  3. March 6, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Some of you people should study the historicity of the Declaration and this nation, especially in reference to ‘Separation of church and state’… Now days everyone gets this one wrong due to contextual ignorance.

    Pick up your biographies of the founding fathers of this national document and stop assuming every word in the history books are true, just because they’re called history books… Yes, I challenge the history books of our schools because I’m well aware of how they are approved, what is permitted and what is omitted from our textbooks based through a panel of men and women who are supposed ‘experts’ or ‘qualified’ to decide what will be placed in those books to sculpt the minds of our children. I know, I was on a panel once, with an aviation engineer without any college or degree in his field, just inherited his trait from a long line of aviation engineers in his family… What qualification did he have to justify what is permitted or omitted from our American History textbooks? Yeah, I couldn’t come up with an answer to this one either, but he was delegated to do so.

    The purpose of ‘separation of church and state’ was not so that the moral fabrics of the church wouldn’t interfere with the government of this nation. For some reason many forget that the migration of this nation was to flee from religious persecution, and to settle where muti-religious practices of the people could exists without the infringement of a self-proclaimed hierarchy in said religious practices ‘cleansing’ those who wouldn’t adhere to the power and practice of the Roman Catholic Church controlled government of old.

    This nation’s religious values framed the government of this nation; therefore ‘church’ was established before ‘state’. Stop mind-melting to the false implications of today’s mainstream world-view that religion is the disdain of our society and the government rule is the answer to freedom and peace, all because there is less tolerance in religious circles for government corruption and depravity, rather than those with no other moral compass except for what they ‘feel’ is right or desire all the same.

    The church was established well before the ‘state’ which is to say, this nation’s modern day government.

    Get in your history, instead of someone’s perspective! The establishment of ‘Separation of church and state’ was forged into our declarations so that the state would never have the right, power or precedent to over-rule or interfere with the matters of the church, which is the basis and very architect of our American Government.

    Sadly, this has changed over the years because mindless simpletons who chose to listen to man’s words, rather than vigilantly studying the course of our nation’s history (as drawn out by our nation’s forefathers) and their true rights as penned out in our national documents, has turned their power and rule over to the government more and more which has given much control to a corrupt government body made up of covetous, power hungry men and women and less knowledge and control to “We the people” who are ‘supposed’ to govern it. This isn’t the governments fault of course, it is the lazy people of America today, and who only want to wait on their free ride EVERY politician continues to promise with each passing term of service. Those same politicians rely on the people to be lazy and ignorant of their responsibility as an American Citizen. To be lazy and do nothing, is to give control back to that same type of government the original pioneers who founded this country fled from.

    It is the right of every American citizen, whether born foreign or domestic, to believe, or believe not in any religious faction, however, it was never the intent of the Declaration, or any other founding document which framed this nation to create a government that would interfere with its people and the very conceptual architect by which said government was derived. Such lunacy was the reason this ‘new world’ was sought out and founded, to escape that insanity and make a better, more peaceful life and practice it as each individual desires.

    Yes, I am a Christian, but it has nothing to do with my belief on this subject. My belief, understanding and knowledge were built by 4 years as an American History Major in college. Today I am an American History Instructor to which I pride myself to stand against the degradation of this nation’s historical character, towards anyone, or thing that may hinder the truth by which many men and women have lost their lives to preserve.

    It never ceases to amaze me how this falsification of facts has been eroded from today’s society, all on account of lack of desire and knowledge to study, explore and understand the history of this great nation. The Scriptures say ‘My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge’. Amazing how a document written 2000 years prior to the creation one of the greatest nations on earth, is able to describe the exact downfall by which that great nation is being dismantled.

    My final words on this: The battle that this nation was not built on the morals and the architect of scripture is a vicious and fallacious argument. It would only take one or two hours of study at your local library, reading the letters written from each President as the next President is ushered in, from Washington, to Adams, from Adams to Jefferson, from Jefferson to Madison, from Madison to Monroe, and so on all the way to Lincoln and later… before you come to realize our Presidents relied heavily on scripture to aid as council in the decisions they had to make for the preservation and the moral standard by which our nation is to govern. Look into the lives of those men who signed their death to the Declaration of Independence and you’ll find they too, were men of religious morals and values and understood it was that very standard by which this nation HAD to adhere in order to survive. Don’t take my word for it folks, ‘Man (or Woman) up’ and study this out for yourselves. Know the history, not ones perspective of history!

  4. March 6, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    I think you’re missing the point. First of all, how about these words from the “history books” (namely, the Constitution itself):

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances;

    and

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws;

    not to mention that one of the most important Founding Fathers, Thomas Jefferson, thought it very important that there be a “wall of separation between church and state.”

    Study of American History or not, I can read the above excerpts well enough to understand that they are saying that “my” government doesn’t have any right to tell me in what Higher Power to believe or not to believe, nor to deny me or anyone else the right to serve my country (or to work at any job for which they are qualified, for that matter) regardless of their sexual orientation, or religion, or color, or gender, etc.

    Even the “God Bless America” every politico in the country seems to feel obligated to tack on to the end of each and every speech makes me cringe, because its implication: “as opposed to everybody else.”


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